Co-executive producer KJ Steinberg also talks about Kate’s confrontation with Marc, the state of the relationship between Kevin and Madison, and what’s waiting for him in New Orleans

“You were broken in all the right places,” Marc said to Kate in the first “This Is Us” episode of 2021. “I wasn’t broken,” replied Kate. “I was grieving, and in” The Long Road Home ” Kate Pearson (Chrissy Metz) communicated the pain caused by this toxic ex-boyfriend and performed some personal alterations

The episode resumed Kate’s difficult conversation with husband Toby (Chris Sullivan), in which she revealed that she was pregnant at the age of 18 and opted for an abortion because she was unwilling to be a mother or being tied to Marc (Austin Abrams) for the rest of her life. This was something teenage Kate (Hannah row) hid from her family, which she put up with on her own, and which came as part of the guilt she found herself over Jack Though adult Kate claimed that Marc’s traumatic chapter was “all in the past,” Toby found that her previous lack of disclosure suggested otherwise. And before she knew it, she drove to San Diego to close old businesses Quit and face their abusive ex from a lifetime ago Marc (played by Dusty Sorg), a dead-end guy who works in a music business, didn’t say much or had little remorse for his horrific hen acts by presenting his misdeeds to the youth But, taking the opportunity and her own defense, Kate pointed out that he was a 24-year-old man at the time: “You are the one who is broken, Marc you are the one Illness And I won’t wear it a moment longer So I’ll give it back to you. Good luck with it, Marc ”

In other Big Three news, Kevin (Justin Hartley) and Madison (Caitlin Thompson) may need more than luck to turn their one-night stand into a fully realized family unit when Kevin told his fiancé that If he had to move to Vancouver for his last gig, there were discussions and differences of opinion Suddenly there was trouble in pandemic paradise Madison accused Kevin of having her and their future children as his “international roadies” and she asked him to “take the moment” when he was up north to find out “like these babies and children.” I will fit into your life “”

Meanwhile, one man is trying to add more and more family to his life – Randall (Sterling K Brown) – Learned More About His Birth Mother Vietnamese grandfather Hai (Vien Hong) tracked down the city council after seeing his shirtless viral video After some handshakes and a consultation with his therapist, Randall decided to open the door and see what he could learn about Laurel (Jennifer C Holmes), who was told he died shortly after he was born, Hai explained that she died of breast cancer just a few years ago and he seemed ready to reveal many more details, which led Randall and Beth (Susan Kelechi Watson) to plan a trip to New Orleans to find out how Laurel lived – and what she loved (and maybe who)

Before we head out to the Big Easy, we’re going to update our MySpace page, head over to Funkown Music, ask Shirley if she’s serious, and speak to This Is Us Co-Executive Producer KJ Steinberg on the defining moments of “The Long Road Home” that she wrote? Look, we’re already at it, so let’s get started

WEEKLY ENTERTAINMENT: This is a key episode for Kate when it comes to facing the past. Why was it important for her to face Marc now? The pandemic was a time for people to reconnect with those from their past, but a situation like this – contacting an abusive ex – can be quite difficult

KJ STEINBERG: Kate is a character who has struggled through a lot of trauma – the loss of her father being the boss among them; to lose him at such an early age And I think a lot for Kate is buried deep, deep inside, has been buried for her since that difficult time of grief And as things crystallized for her as adults and she was ready to move down stare and take control of the rest of her life this was urgent And getting that direct line to face the demon herself for her was the only way in her gut to do it Was to look at him and see that he is even smaller than life-size

Teen Kate decided not to share her plans for an abortion with Marc after she was disgusted and hurt by his behavior When adult Kate confronted Marc, letting him know that it was not okay to be so toxic to her, Did she never mention the abortion she had years ago? Did she want to tell him but was changing her mind again at the moment, feeling that he didn’t deserve to know?

I think as a writer it is our job to reflect on the human experience. Kate’s experience was organic to her character and true to character even when she was so young, when she made her choice, as lonely as it was when When she made that choice, she was clear in that this decision was right for her. It was an experience that was hers, and it was an experience that was actually separated from the long-lasting trauma of the relationship with Marc when he confronted Marc He did not claim or possess any part of that choice for her. That was a great deal about her and her life

If Marc had said in the past that he responded better to the teenage Kate at the reunion, is there any chance she didn’t go through the abortion? Or was that just the last straw when he saw that it was so toxic and would never change?

I don’t think anything would have changed her mind I think the choice was right for her and her life He was who he was Especially in our youth and in the haze of toxic relationships, we always hope to get milk from a hardware store The Hardware store doesn’t sell milk Yet we keep looking for this dairy department and we know in our hearts that no matter what words come out of this person’s mouth or what kind of gesture they are at the core, who they are and our values ​​are our values ​​and never those Twain will meet

Yes I think in her heart she went to reiterate what she already knew was the right decision for her not to look for a way not to have an abortion

Kate is home crying after the procedure and it’s heartbreaking to see that she can’t tell Rebecca what happened and we see her calm down with ice cream What does that mean for a teen who has this massive Having to keep the event to herself while she recovers from her father’s death? That’s so much to fill

There’s so much to fill. And what we wanted to show was a rubicon for a character – a point of no return, a tragic missed opportunity. If she felt like she could open up at that moment, Rebecca would be hers Was life different? Would the healing have started earlier? So it was a very important moment for her character who faced the urgency of 40-year-old Kate to face Marc now because she had held him for so long

Abortion is a point of contention that TV shows from Maude and more recently shows like Scandal, Grey’s Anatomy and GLOW have been addressing. What were your concerns, if any, in investigating this issue?

There were no fears I’m very proud to be in a room where no problem, no plot, no line is handled lightly but that also means that we represented a spectrum of women on this show, from which some faced with the specter of an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy and some women were confronted with the reality of an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy and made different choices for themselves so there was no hesitation in representing a woman that many of our viewers will see themselves in

You’ve seen how other shows deal with abortion. Was there anything you wanted to do differently?

I wanted it to be as honest as possible I wanted it to reflect the seriousness of the decision without portraying it as a life-defining trauma because it is not the trauma was the abusive relationship The choice fell on empowerment and courage, although it was difficult for Kate to meet her, we are very proud of that

Toby is so eager that No 1 person for Kate Were there versions of this story that Toby tried to be more involved in, maybe even in the confrontation? Clearly, it had to be about Kate having the agency at that moment to take responsibility for her life, but getting him out of the way in the car must have been a challenge – which the characters even joke about

We talked about it a lot like I said this room doesn’t take anything lightly and we go back and forth But it was pretty clear that this was Kate’s journey The relationship haunted Kate, the choice she made was hers at one time When she didn’t know Toby and her ownership of all of this and her isolation with all that for better or for worse – all of these elements were decisions that she made, and therefore of breaking free from the feelings that were holding them down or holding them back Toby was never the agent who did it through. It was always herself. And at every stroke of history it became very clear that the job of a loving partner, Toby’s job – because he’s a loving and supportive advocate of Kate’s growth and happiness – his role was to sit by her side and assist her in what she had to do

At the end of this episode, it seems like Kate received most of the closure she was looking for to tell Fair that there will be repercussions from it?

Marc is put to bed The devil is dead And it’s a moment of joy for her It’s a freedom for her I think the reverberation will be pretty positive. She’ll be stronger and more determined in the future

Switch to Kevin and Madison: They are at a crossroads in their relationship. She said, “You said you were all there and I bought this. Take this moment to decide if you really are When he said it : “I am,” his eyes fluttered a little and she said, “Take the moment How much should we read into his waffles? As she says, the Pearson men love a big speech, but” all in “is in this one fast scenario a big challenge

Kevin is a man with great ambitions to be Jack Pearson. He always chases his father’s ghost. And at this moment Madison sees him more clearly than himself I think he desperately wants to be all-in and he wasn’t lying when he said it was him, but sometimes he says things he needs to catch up

Madison has a very strong reaction to staying with the family will make viewers learn more about her background and why she is so determined to travel the world with him and maybe even a little selfish when she is don’t want to do it? As he notes, she knew what his career meant and what she was getting into, and he has clearly shown commitment to her

I don’t think it’s selfish I think she’s on a ride with him, the origin of which was very unexpected, the thought of sharing kids with someone before you even really know them, and from there one Relationship building is difficult for both of them.She lives with him in a tiny, little, intimate, wonderful bubble because she doesn’t have such wonderful circumstances what COVID is She almost experienced a dollhouse version of what life could be – just her and Kevin in her house, intimate in that lovely little cocoon with no intruders, no invasion of his celebrity so there was an unreality for both of them in her experience and suddenly it sits down the reality in this episode through

That’s a good way of putting it Let’s talk about that ending with Randall and Laurel Hai describes himself as a close friend of Laurel. Is there a lot more to this story and your relationship?

I don’t want to spoil [episode] 6 which is an extraordinary, extraordinary episode where you get all of these answers I would just tell the audience: make sure you have a comfortable edge of your seat

Hai seems to be a gracious gentleman What can you tell us about him that we don’t know but are about to learn?

He is a Vietnamese refugee who finds his place as a fisherman in the New Orleans community and meets Laurel in the most unlikely way

I know you don’t want to spoil too much, but among the big questions about Laurel that comes into this episode were: is she still alive? And since she lived a while after he was born, why didn’t she try to get in touch with Randall? And did William lie about her? This episode apparently answered two of those three questions. Are some of the answers surprising and more complicated than viewers expect? Is that a way to set it up?

This is a perfect explanation Everyone’s life is an original Laurels life is a very specific, original, painful, and beautiful story Your journey is one that I have never seen before

We now know that she died of breast cancer a few years ago, did the writers talk about a scenario where Laurel was still alive, or did it just feel like too many characters were dead or long lost than her came back into the picture?

It was the latter. A turn is never made for its own sake; it always has to come from an organic place and it felt inorganic to have her alive and out there I mean loss is a part of life As I said before, as writers we are supposed to reflect the human experience, most people’s experience is that they lose a loved one and mourn And that loss is real and permanent

How emotional are things in New Orleans for Randall? Is the Big Easy anything but easy for him?

He’s working with a therapist now but he’s been through so much Does he have the tools to accept and process this and maybe even thrive in his life after what happens down there?

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